Having used a lot of stand to pee devices in my time, I’ve learnt a few tricks along the way which I thought were worth sharing.
Here’s a little summary of tips and tricks to keep in mind when using a stand to pee device. Though I primarily have the EZP and EZP Junior in mind when giving these tips, they are relevant to most FTM STPs.
• Always wear snug underwear with either an easy access side slit or the less common horizontal slit (see the Budgie Briefs as an example of H slit). It’s close to impossible to use an STP hoiked over a waistband. Don’t try fight gravity!
• Another good trick as far as side slit underwear goes, is to cut a small hole in the layer that sits against your skin, where the shaft sits and actually pull the shaft through this first layer. This helps with keeping the device in place and makes using it that much easier. It also means you don’t have to bend it around two separately directioned pieces of material.
• You’ll notice all side slit underwear has the slit on the right, seeing most of us are right handed (I’m sure lefty underwear is available somewhere but I haven’t come across it.) To further aid in easy access, I recommend wearing your STP with the shaft sitting towards the left. That way it sits very comfortably, won’t create any embarrassing bulges, and sits in a position that makes it very easy to access.
• Another thing you’ll want to be selective about is your choice of pants. Make sure you’re wearing pants that allow you to bring the fly down lower than your urethral exit (ie below your crotch.) This makes positioning the STP and making sure it’s not getting kinked in any way so much easier. A lot of back flow issues are caused by the STP either being kinked in the middle or the user not pointing the shaft low enough. (You can’t pee upstream!)
• Once you’ve finished peeing, there’s a good chance there’ll be a few drips in the bottom of the cup. Discretely lift the cup forward with your thumbs, so that any remainder runs straight down the shaft and out and you’ll be guaranteed it’s all cleared.
If you’re someone who has struggled with soft stand to pee packers and you’re after something more rigid, then you may also want to consider purchasing the $10 EZP shape retainer cup, which sits snugly inside the EZP, giving the bowl a sturdy firmness that prevents any kind of buckling. It is available in two sizes, the shape retainer for the EZP and the shape retainer for the EZP Junior.
45 degrees upward and to the left? Won’t that look like an erection though? : \
(Thanks for this guide, Alex!)
No, it’s small and discreet enough not to. You can see how it sits in some of my demo videos eg https://www.dropbox.com/s/kzgeha4gm6krsiy/EZPdemo.mov?dl=0&spfreload=10
Thank you! Looks great!
Which jeans have the lower zip? Thanks.
How high or low should the stp sit on you. I tried it for the first time today and some spilled out of my stp. Not too crazy though, over all first experience was awesome. I got the stp junior becuase im 5′ and 1205bs. Should I have gotten the larger stp?
Basically the cup should be sitting under your urethra when you’re using it, and it will take a bit of experimenting to see what feels most comfortable and secure for you. When you’re just wearing it, it should be in front of you, rather than underneath you.
When it is at a 45° angle it looks like I have a chub on. No shizz
In any position it looks like I have a erection, according to my long term partner who has been with cis guys so she would know.
To be honest needs some more thought into that aspect of the packer part of the design.
As I wasted $200USD on a stp that makes me look constantly hard that I can’t wear in public -.-‘
“Snug” fitting underwear doesn’t hold it in place either. Especially if your active (I’m an arborist), it also doesn’t work in my harness. Moves round and gets caught and is uncomfortable.
I have spent over $1000 on stp and packers trying to find the right one. And I thought I had with yours until I tested it :(
I’m very very disappointed in the product, and it has made my dysphoria and anxiety with barthrooms worse.
So unless you wanna look like a teenage boy fighting his random boners DO NOT BUY THIS PRODUCT
I’m sorry to hear that :( yeah, it’s definitely not designed to be worn with a harness, so I suspect that’s a big part of your issue.
I’m trying to buy the limpy but I can’t find it. I’m a big guy and I would rather have a limp bulge instead of not showing at all. Also since I’m a big guy I constantly have spilling and quite a bit. I have several of your underwear and with my pants I look like there is nothing there. Hope you can help me!!!
If you just google “Mr Limpy packer” you’ll find a bunch of places that sell it :)
If you’ve “spent over $1000 on STP and packers trying to find the right one,” then it seems like you would advise other trans guys against buying any of them at all.
How tight are your pants if it looks like you have a perma-boner? Try imagining what it would be like if you were blessed with the full package- are your pants so tight that your wiener would still create a bulge ????????????????????
If you “have spent over $1000 on stp and packers trying to find the right one,” then it sounds like you would advise trans guys not to buy ANY products whatsoever, because you’ve rejected them all. Are there any STPs out there that you actually like? If you have never found one that you can tolerate, maybe the companies aren’t the problem- maybe you’ve set your standards too high.
In this case, is it possible your pants are too tight? If you were cis, would you have the same problem with Mr. Happy standing out and proud? Most cis guys position their lil’ fella in their underwear so that he’s either pointing upwards and slightly to one side, pressed snugly against their body, or they point him down and slip him into the leg of their boxers, pressed against their thigh (usually their left leg). I generally try to pack the same way, depending on the fit of my pants.
Bottom dysphoria sucks, and I really sympathize with you- I have learned to try not to let myself dwell on the sense of grief and longing which characterizes my dysphoria. Unfortunately, packers and STPs aren’t the same as the real thing, but a lot of them start to feel better and more natural if you take some time to get used to them, and learn the little tricks that make them work for you. None of them are perfect, but try to focus on the aspects that DO make you feel good, and ignore their shortcomings as much as you can. Stay strong brother.
Well you can’t just say « don’t buy this product, it doesn’t work ». If it doesn’t work for you, it doesn’t mean it won’t work for other peolpe! Everybody is different, either you’re using it wrong (which could be the case if you never found anything that works) or it doesn’t fit your body properly, it doesn’t mean it’s a bad profuct.
Me for exemple, I never spilled, I can get any STP and use it right away at a urinal because I know where to place it exactly and I can control my flow
Jeans too tight? How big is your stp? What harness do you use?
I wear regular fit jeans, my stp is 3.75”, and I use a jock strap harness. It doesn’t look like I have a boner 24/7. It does if I wear tight jeans, but that’s a given.
I’ve had the same issue with all stps I’ve tried, which has been 6 different ones and I lot of wasted money. All of them are too hard and big to pack with and look like I have a boner. I wish someone would make one with much smaller and softer balls, a small firm cup inside the balls and be able to bend in the middle to fold it over. Or something. I’ve stopped trying to use anything
I keep spilling towards the back.. Any tips?
It sounds like you need to tilt it further forwards. Hope that helps!
This site is absolutely fabulous!
How much smaller is rhe junior? I find the regular size quite large and it moves around a lot making it challenging to wear like my packer. Any suggestions on what I can do to avoid all the movement and “bonner” like appearance? Perhpas I should have bought tje junior. I’m 5’5″ and 175lbs. What do you think?
The junior is 80% the size of the EZP. You can get all dimensions on the product page. Snug fitting underwear should definitely help :)
Hello! I’m 16 and I’m looking into buying the ezp I was just wondering if I should get the junior or is that for like smaller kids???? And say if you don’t clean it right after (like in a public bath room) will it stink all day??? Should I use a strap? Or pouch with this??
I’d say both would be fine for you, so it’s just a matter of personal preference as to how discreet you want it. Whether it smells or not depends on your personal body odor. You don’t need a strap or pouch, just regular underwear.
I’m the happy owner of a Joystick, I was never really into STP’s but since I got a new job I have found myself in need of one and have a couple of questions. So you just never wipe when using an stp? How is possible humidity dealt with in that area? Do you really wear it all day everywhere you go? How can I really make sure it doesn’t come out of my underwear in extreme situations? Is there any way to just have it in your pockets and then discreetly place it right before going to the bathroom somehow?
What you can do for wiping is to flip it all the way forward and use the part of your underwear the the cup usually sits against to dab yourself. That part of the underwear is then not in contact with your body. The question of all day, every day is a personal one. I personally, do not. I tend to just wear it in situations where I’m likely to be encountering mens rooms, but plenty of people do wear it all day every day (though I do not recommend sleeping with it) As long as your wearing snug fitting briefs, it’s not going anywhere. And re discreetly having it in your pocket, that’s not really possible. You’d have to create quite an elaborate false pocket and it would be quite bulgy in the wrong places. Hope that helps!
Hey, I’m 5’6″ and about 130lbs – relatively scrawny. Can anyone suggest whether I should get the Junior or the regular sized STP? I’m definitely looking for the most discreet bulge possible, for all-day wear. Anyone my size-ish used a Junior?
If you’re looking for the most discreet, then I’d definitely say the EZP Junior :)
Where can I purchase one of these STP Junior?
http://transthetics.com/product/ezp-junior-stp/
I can sometimes pee using a medicine spoon (which I have been tucking in my underwear, held in by putting a sock in front of it). I started practicing that a few days ago cuz I knew I’d be waiting in a long line for early voting yesterday. It works if I don’t wait until I have to go too hard but I have to REALLY concentrate to keep it in place. So tonight I purchased the EZP Junior because I’m fairly certain that if I can get that tiny medicine spoon to work SOMETIMES, then I shouldn’t have leak issues with the EZP Junior.
I used to try to be the last person to use the toilet paper rolls as a kid so I could pee with those btw. I’ve managed to adapt with the weirdest methods so this should hopefully be a “wiz” 😉 … can’t wait for it to arrive!
I’ve tried way too many stp s and wish I found this one sooner. I wear it up- how it’s suggested and it doesn’t seem noticeable. Partner doesn’t notice either. – I also put it in a small sock- hole at the end for the tip and shaft to go through- the opening of the sock is the opening of the packer. This helps not rub against skin if I’m wearing it for too long. I find it really easy to pee out of. I haven’t tried it in a public urinal – but will probably have to cus there is only one stall usually occupied where I work. Anyways- I’m a fan. You can always sow in a pouch in your underwear with an opening to pee out of for further security tho probably not necessary. Hoping transthetics continues to make these. I’m very grateful for them ~
I bought the EZP about 8 months ago.. I was really worried about the purchase because I had bought one STP before and it didn’t work for me at all.
Learning how to use it was quite simple and the worked great – of course I started with naked in the shower, then toilet at home with still more clothes on and honestly it worked really well. I am very shy, so it took me few months to try it outside (in the forest with no people around and it still took me ages, so I definitely need a lot of practice with that part). I honestly got it because I mostly work in an environment where it’s not very easy to find a toilet, but so far I have managed somehow without raising suspicion.
I cannot wear it up – it’s uncomfortable, moves too much and absolutely looks like en erection. Since I have to change clothes every day in front on my coworkers, in discouraged me from wearing it every day. When I found out about the way of wearing it down (bend the shaft in front of the balls), it suddenly just felt soooo right. It looked great in the pants. So i hope in doesn’t put too much strain on the material? I know it’s meant to be worn up, but I seriously can’t do that.
So, that was great. Even my working pants (work clothes I have to wear, idk) have low fly and I can pull them down quite a lot, so the gravity is not a problem. What’s sadly bad is that it still moves all the time. I have a very active job (climbing on and jumping off the back of the truck, bending down for boxes, even just a fast walk…) and the EZP just can’t stay in the “down” position for more than few minutes and then in just ends up in every possible position, even upside down and I can’t really reach down my pants every few minutes to fix it. It “unbends” very easily, which wouldn’t be such a problem right now, because of all the layers of my work clothes no one can see that area anyway, but I always feel like it’s not very secure and I’m afraid it would fall out of the underwear (it never did, but it still makes me extremely nervous and uncomfortable). That’s my only issue with it and so far I wasn’t able to find a solution, so I just don’t wear it.
But I would love to – it really saved me during one week, when I had to work completely outside every day with no toilet. And even in my normal day at work it would be nice and save a lot of time.
So if any of you have any tips how to keep it in position, I’m all ears, because I really want to wear it, so I wouldn’t have to keep pretending I need to pee only when there happens to be a toilet nearby.
Otherwise it’s perfect – it never spilled, it’s quite easy to use once you figure out how it’s comfortable for you (I don’t even mind using normal underwear with no slit). Oh and I love that it’s so smooth inside, that almost no drops are left behind when I tilt it.
the one you show using.. has a wider base than the one you show putting the insert in and the one you sell to others.. tad misleading there..
There is both an EZP and an EZP junior, so you may be getting the two conflated?
The one you show I have as well and how you used it ya right no joke I pee all over